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		<title>By: Lydia</title>
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		<dc:creator>Lydia</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 18 Feb 2009 20:14:31 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>this is what ebay said re the certified designer question and the charges for the store.


With in the New Stores/New Frooition Experience information page
(http://www.frooition.com/new_store_experience/) they are stating &quot;
Frooition Software is 100% compliant with eBay&#039;s site interference
policies&quot; which is true, however from what I can tell they are in
violation of our JavaScript policy
(http://pages.ebay.com/help/policies/listing-javascript.html). Perhaps
brining this to Frooition&#039;s atention....</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>this is what ebay said re the certified designer question and the charges for the store.</p>
<p>With in the New Stores/New Frooition Experience information page<br />
(<a href="http://www.frooition.com/new_store_experience/" rel="nofollow">http://www.frooition.com/new_store_experience/</a>) they are stating &#8221;<br />
Frooition Software is 100% compliant with eBay&#8217;s site interference<br />
policies&#8221; which is true, however from what I can tell they are in<br />
violation of our JavaScript policy<br />
(<a href="http://pages.ebay.com/help/policies/listing-javascript.html" rel="nofollow">http://pages.ebay.com/help/policies/listing-javascript.html</a>). Perhaps<br />
brining this to Frooition&#8217;s atention&#8230;.</p>
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		<title>By: Lydia</title>
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		<dc:creator>Lydia</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 18 Feb 2009 20:12:51 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Well for some of us that sell in the designer jewelry category ebay is the only venue that the registered tra,demarks permit online selling without a distributorship so our website just links to the ebay store. We have grown substantially in the 4th quarter 2008 and so far in the first quarter so i guess all is not golf, athletic shoes, cds, dvds, books, electronics.  Ebay does have a niche that no others can compete with for authentic signed pieces

As to Frootion, we are only concerned that as Ebay certified designers they will charge for the mandatory ebay upgrade. At first I THOUGHT aswas was exaggerating when they said Frooition is not in compliance. Then I received this from my account manager when I asked why Frooition was charging us for the design upgrade when they were supposed to be compliant with design?

&lt;&lt;&gt;

So far they have not been too keen on it. Frankly, I love Frooition&#039;s Ebay design for my store. I just feel that we pay way to much for photos and other add ons that others provide for free once we are &quot;roped in&quot;  When they first did my design they sent me the html for it and told me it was mine. From what I have read here I guess this is not the case. Hopefully they will not go under and instead try to make customers happy since if custmoers leave the add ons won&#039;t matter.

I am glad to hear that Gren is still invested but who knows what is true? It is just like Hollywood tabloids out there to us.  We are more concerned with their living up to their ebay design certification terms and not putting the costs for their errors on the backs of Ebay sellers.  Hopefully they will do the right thing and then everyone will continue to renew.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Well for some of us that sell in the designer jewelry category ebay is the only venue that the registered tra,demarks permit online selling without a distributorship so our website just links to the ebay store. We have grown substantially in the 4th quarter 2008 and so far in the first quarter so i guess all is not golf, athletic shoes, cds, dvds, books, electronics.  Ebay does have a niche that no others can compete with for authentic signed pieces</p>
<p>As to Frootion, we are only concerned that as Ebay certified designers they will charge for the mandatory ebay upgrade. At first I THOUGHT aswas was exaggerating when they said Frooition is not in compliance. Then I received this from my account manager when I asked why Frooition was charging us for the design upgrade when they were supposed to be compliant with design?</p>
<p>&lt;&lt;&gt;</p>
<p>So far they have not been too keen on it. Frankly, I love Frooition&#8217;s Ebay design for my store. I just feel that we pay way to much for photos and other add ons that others provide for free once we are &#8220;roped in&#8221;  When they first did my design they sent me the html for it and told me it was mine. From what I have read here I guess this is not the case. Hopefully they will not go under and instead try to make customers happy since if custmoers leave the add ons won&#8217;t matter.</p>
<p>I am glad to hear that Gren is still invested but who knows what is true? It is just like Hollywood tabloids out there to us.  We are more concerned with their living up to their ebay design certification terms and not putting the costs for their errors on the backs of Ebay sellers.  Hopefully they will do the right thing and then everyone will continue to renew.</p>
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		<title>By: Scott Pooler</title>
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		<dc:creator>Scott Pooler</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 12 Feb 2009 04:03:45 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I suppose I was confused by the statements on Gren&#039;s LinkedIn profile &quot;Looking for a new IT Challenge&quot; and &quot;Formerly with Frooition&quot;.

It was also a shock to me, but this was published in the public domain long before I picked it up and it was published by Gren himself on his LinkedIn profile. Who am I to doubt what was published there?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I suppose I was confused by the statements on Gren&#8217;s LinkedIn profile &#8220;Looking for a new IT Challenge&#8221; and &#8220;Formerly with Frooition&#8221;.</p>
<p>It was also a shock to me, but this was published in the public domain long before I picked it up and it was published by Gren himself on his LinkedIn profile. Who am I to doubt what was published there?</p>
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		<title>By: Chris</title>
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		<dc:creator>Chris</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 12 Feb 2009 01:07:57 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I was a bit surprised at the news Gren had left Froo as it&#039;s not so long since I spoke to him and he said nothing about leaving..... so I asked em and they told me:

&quot;Grenville Whelan is not only a significant investor in Frooition.com and continues to support the business but he has also managed the business to it&#039;s current position of no. 1 in the eBay advanced design space. Grenville has decided to take a lesser role in the business for 2 simple reasons. 1. He has had some personal issues to deal with 2. His Partner Phillip Molloy has volunteered to take over the role of &quot;president and ceo&quot; to take the business to the next level of growth both in the USA the UK and worldwide.

A major investor in the business is Phillip Molloy who has been involved with Frooiton.com for the last 3 years but very much in the background supporting Grenville and the team. Phillip agreed to take over from Grenville starting Jan 2009 back in August last year - so the handover has been very controlled and planned.

Phillip Molloy brings with him a wealth of experience from a variety of UK and US based businesses. Phillip is a well known UK entrepreneur who has started 3 of his own businesses from scratch and grown them to multi-million industry leading and profitable organizations. In addition Phillip has been an executive director with a number of successful PLC&#039;s to add to his corporate CV. Phillip is an individual with a proven track record as a business angel, mentor and investor.

&quot;I love working with the team here at Frooition. I genuinely believe that our products dramatically improve our customers business sales and online revenue. The team here really contribute, care and add value to our customers businesses. We all share a common goal to help customers increase sales and grow revenue.&quot; says Phillip regarding his new role as President and CEO of Frooition.com&quot;

Or in other words Gren ain&#039;t left the building :-)</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I was a bit surprised at the news Gren had left Froo as it&#8217;s not so long since I spoke to him and he said nothing about leaving&#8230;.. so I asked em and they told me:</p>
<p>&#8220;Grenville Whelan is not only a significant investor in Frooition.com and continues to support the business but he has also managed the business to it&#8217;s current position of no. 1 in the eBay advanced design space. Grenville has decided to take a lesser role in the business for 2 simple reasons. 1. He has had some personal issues to deal with 2. His Partner Phillip Molloy has volunteered to take over the role of &#8220;president and ceo&#8221; to take the business to the next level of growth both in the USA the UK and worldwide.</p>
<p>A major investor in the business is Phillip Molloy who has been involved with Frooiton.com for the last 3 years but very much in the background supporting Grenville and the team. Phillip agreed to take over from Grenville starting Jan 2009 back in August last year &#8211; so the handover has been very controlled and planned.</p>
<p>Phillip Molloy brings with him a wealth of experience from a variety of UK and US based businesses. Phillip is a well known UK entrepreneur who has started 3 of his own businesses from scratch and grown them to multi-million industry leading and profitable organizations. In addition Phillip has been an executive director with a number of successful PLC&#8217;s to add to his corporate CV. Phillip is an individual with a proven track record as a business angel, mentor and investor.</p>
<p>&#8220;I love working with the team here at Frooition. I genuinely believe that our products dramatically improve our customers business sales and online revenue. The team here really contribute, care and add value to our customers businesses. We all share a common goal to help customers increase sales and grow revenue.&#8221; says Phillip regarding his new role as President and CEO of Frooition.com&#8221;</p>
<p>Or in other words Gren ain&#8217;t left the building <img src='http://tradingassistantjournal.com/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_smile.gif' alt=':-)' class='wp-smiley' /> </p>
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		<title>By: Grenville</title>
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		<dc:creator>Grenville</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 11 Feb 2009 22:56:17 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Hey Scott,

You could have dropped me a line and I would kindly have explained that I have taken a step back from the business as planned 2.5 years ago.

For the record, I am still a significant shareholder and director of Frooition and continue to support the business, but invited and encouraged Phillip Molloy to take over the day to day running of the business and to take it to the next level.

I believe I enabled Frooition to transition from a start-up business with great ideas and enthusiasm into a viable, growing and profitable business that has established itself as the world leader in eBay design, and has a fantastic future ahead of itself.

My original plan when investing in the business in July 2006 was to also invest two years of my time and energy to make Frooition a world leading design company -  after two and a half years of commuting 4 hours per day, I feel I have delivered that target and have been very fortunate in attracting Phillip into the business as both a fellow investor and Managing Director going forward. We share the same vision and ideals and know that Frooition will go and grow from strength to strength.

I&#039;ll continue to be involved for the duration and look forward to meeting up with you again soon.

Regards
Grenville</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Hey Scott,</p>
<p>You could have dropped me a line and I would kindly have explained that I have taken a step back from the business as planned 2.5 years ago.</p>
<p>For the record, I am still a significant shareholder and director of Frooition and continue to support the business, but invited and encouraged Phillip Molloy to take over the day to day running of the business and to take it to the next level.</p>
<p>I believe I enabled Frooition to transition from a start-up business with great ideas and enthusiasm into a viable, growing and profitable business that has established itself as the world leader in eBay design, and has a fantastic future ahead of itself.</p>
<p>My original plan when investing in the business in July 2006 was to also invest two years of my time and energy to make Frooition a world leading design company &#8211;  after two and a half years of commuting 4 hours per day, I feel I have delivered that target and have been very fortunate in attracting Phillip into the business as both a fellow investor and Managing Director going forward. We share the same vision and ideals and know that Frooition will go and grow from strength to strength.</p>
<p>I&#8217;ll continue to be involved for the duration and look forward to meeting up with you again soon.</p>
<p>Regards<br />
Grenville</p>
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		<title>By: Dave W</title>
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		<dc:creator>Dave W</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 11 Feb 2009 13:45:06 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Scott

Companies that structured themselves soley around eBay are feeling the same economic effects that eBay itself is feeling.

eCommerce marketers that used the eBay venue as their sole outlet continue to see declining sales and continually increasing fees while competing with off-site advertisers.

This has led to these business people making hard choices about where they will continue to sell their product.

Ecommerce marketers need to take a page out of the eBay playbook. eBay has diversified and so must we.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Scott</p>
<p>Companies that structured themselves soley around eBay are feeling the same economic effects that eBay itself is feeling.</p>
<p>eCommerce marketers that used the eBay venue as their sole outlet continue to see declining sales and continually increasing fees while competing with off-site advertisers.</p>
<p>This has led to these business people making hard choices about where they will continue to sell their product.</p>
<p>Ecommerce marketers need to take a page out of the eBay playbook. eBay has diversified and so must we.</p>
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		<title>By: eBay Designers fell the &#8216;pinch&#8217; &#124; Kidson Talks - The E-commerce Chemist &#124; SEO &#124; EBAY &#124; Shopping Comparison &#124; Pay Per Click &#124; Internet Marketing</title>
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		<dc:creator>eBay Designers fell the &#8216;pinch&#8217; &#124; Kidson Talks - The E-commerce Chemist &#124; SEO &#124; EBAY &#124; Shopping Comparison &#124; Pay Per Click &#124; Internet Marketing</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 11 Feb 2009 09:57:40 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] We are in a rough recession and only the strong will survive. It seems as though the arena of eBay design is starting to suffer with the departure of Frooition&#8217;s Managing Director Grenville Whelan. [...]</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[...] We are in a rough recession and only the strong will survive. It seems as though the arena of eBay design is starting to suffer with the departure of Frooition&#8217;s Managing Director Grenville Whelan. [...]</p>
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		<title>By: Liz</title>
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		<dc:creator>Liz</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 11 Feb 2009 09:38:44 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Frooition has faced many redundancies in the recent 18 months and the economic downturn has forced many companies to re-think their financial placement.

I hope for my clients this does not spell the end of froosville as they will all loose their paid for design.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Frooition has faced many redundancies in the recent 18 months and the economic downturn has forced many companies to re-think their financial placement.</p>
<p>I hope for my clients this does not spell the end of froosville as they will all loose their paid for design.</p>
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		<title>By: John</title>
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		<dc:creator>John</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 11 Feb 2009 05:44:49 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Hey there &quot;Just A Thought&quot;

U said...&quot;There will always be those who complain at every change in their lives… it’s when they stop complaining and start DOING that real change is effected.&quot;

Can I say BRAVO!  Damn skippy...

Oh and the BRILLIANT line of ... &quot;the brightest eBay sellers have seen the light and are already selling on multiple venues.&quot;

Dude are you sure we are not brothers? I could NOT have expressed it more eloquently in a lifetime, LMAO

Seriously, love the thoughts.

John (ColderICE)</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Hey there &#8220;Just A Thought&#8221;</p>
<p>U said&#8230;&#8221;There will always be those who complain at every change in their lives… it’s when they stop complaining and start DOING that real change is effected.&#8221;</p>
<p>Can I say BRAVO!  Damn skippy&#8230;</p>
<p>Oh and the BRILLIANT line of &#8230; &#8220;the brightest eBay sellers have seen the light and are already selling on multiple venues.&#8221;</p>
<p>Dude are you sure we are not brothers? I could NOT have expressed it more eloquently in a lifetime, LMAO</p>
<p>Seriously, love the thoughts.</p>
<p>John (ColderICE)</p>
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		<title>By: Just A Thought</title>
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		<dc:creator>Just A Thought</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 11 Feb 2009 02:49:40 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>My thoughts would be that Grenville Wheland, whom you yourself state &quot;his skills as a start up entrepreneur were also touted&quot; could simply be leaving because the company has left the start-up phase and is no longer of interest?

&quot;Serial Entrepreneurs&quot; I believe is what they are called -- people of great talent who enjoy the challenge and thrill of starting a new venture, but fade quickly when it boils down to day-to-day operations.

The online sales environment is indeed changing, and the brightest eBay sellers have seen the light and are already selling on multiple venues.  eBay&#039;s policies may have hastened this trend, but I&#039;m not so sure I&#039;d give them credit for starting it.  There will always be those who complain at every change in their lives... it&#039;s when they stop complaining and start DOING that real change is effected.  When sellers stopped &#039;just talking&#039; and started actually walking, that&#039;s when the environment really started to change.

Maturity eventually comes to all, and it&#039;s usually a good thing.  With the advances in search engines and search engine submissions, perhaps a monolithic site like eBay is no longer needed for shoppers to best find what they are looking for.

Perhaps also, had eBay recognized it&#039;s true position betwixt and between customers (buyers) and clients (sellers), just perhaps this change in the marketplace would not have been needed.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>My thoughts would be that Grenville Wheland, whom you yourself state &#8220;his skills as a start up entrepreneur were also touted&#8221; could simply be leaving because the company has left the start-up phase and is no longer of interest?</p>
<p>&#8220;Serial Entrepreneurs&#8221; I believe is what they are called &#8212; people of great talent who enjoy the challenge and thrill of starting a new venture, but fade quickly when it boils down to day-to-day operations.</p>
<p>The online sales environment is indeed changing, and the brightest eBay sellers have seen the light and are already selling on multiple venues.  eBay&#8217;s policies may have hastened this trend, but I&#8217;m not so sure I&#8217;d give them credit for starting it.  There will always be those who complain at every change in their lives&#8230; it&#8217;s when they stop complaining and start DOING that real change is effected.  When sellers stopped &#8216;just talking&#8217; and started actually walking, that&#8217;s when the environment really started to change.</p>
<p>Maturity eventually comes to all, and it&#8217;s usually a good thing.  With the advances in search engines and search engine submissions, perhaps a monolithic site like eBay is no longer needed for shoppers to best find what they are looking for.</p>
<p>Perhaps also, had eBay recognized it&#8217;s true position betwixt and between customers (buyers) and clients (sellers), just perhaps this change in the marketplace would not have been needed.</p>
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